waiter, I'll have the cardboard cut out of the pancakes.

[amand_r]

1. In an email, neifile7 said: While you're on your mission to subvert as many fandom tropes as possible, I'd love to see you do a sort of anti-h/c one of these days. But I'm not sure what that would look like, yet.

I'm not sure either, but I am intrigued. Anyone have any thoughts?

2. I cannot speak for all of the flavours, but omg Maple Bacon Lollipops? YES, PLEASE. They are good. So good.

3. I found the context of this page LOLARIOUS. (h/t lastrega)

4. please no more grindcore at 3 am (h/t lastrega again)

I have nothing of any substance today. Sorry. Fic later. And it is the fluffiest thing I have ever written.

Comments

[noveldevice.livejournal.com]

Bella and Edward's favourite book would be a fucking Bronte. Ugh.

(Please don't ask for comment on the entire marketing ploy going on there; it's too early for me to foam at the mouth.)

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Hahahahah that's not foam of rage, it's toothpaste! Just keep telling yourself that! My rage is mint flavoured!

[cruentum.livejournal.com]

Anti-h/c

I got nuthin other than people being mean.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Isn't that the hurt portion of h/c?

Healing/anxiety?

a story that starts off with a person feeling good, recovered, and then he's hit with a railroad spike and dies?

[pocky_slash.livejournal.com]

They also make a Romeo and Juliet and a Pride and Prejudice with Twilight inspired covers. All three of them came in a display together. And then I curled up behind my information desk and wept.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

OMG SO I got Pride and Prejudice and Zombies for the hold, and the first sentence alone is priceless: It is a truth universally acknowledged that a zombie in possession of brains must be in want of more brains,

Oh Jane Austen, you saucy Romero-loving ho.

[fodian.livejournal.com]

anti-h/c

Hmmm. If the trope of hurt/comfort is about someone hurting (mentally/emotionally/physically/&c) and that hurt being assuaged by a comfort (encouragement/approval/different levels of physicality/&c), then perhaps the opposite would be a scenario in which the "assuage" part of the equation is flipped, so, the comfort *is* the hurt, or where the comfort fails to alleviate the hurt (although I would still classify some failed-comfort fics as h/c). Interesting question.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

This is where my brain was going, but I'm not sure that flips the trope, like a person would look at that fic and say "that's anti-h/c" as opposed to "that's failed h/c". I guess it would all be in the labelling, right?

Hell, no one reads headers, anyway.

[contrarywise]

Well, the logical version of anti-h/c is not-hurt/not-comfort, which is, well, everything except h/c. So yeah, I got nuthin'.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but you know how like when we say someone is an anti-hero, like...Oh, deadpool or something, they're not really the OPPOSITE, because the opposite of hero is villain. I think this is like that. Like in this case anti isn't going to mean opposite precisely.

I don't know. Hrm.

[neifile7.livejournal.com]

The Twi-fic-ation of the globe continues apace. Oh well done.

Jesus, I don't know what I was thinking. I guess what interests me in h/c, especially for Janto, is that there's this whole subtext of (a) actions speak louder than words, especially among men, ergo (b) men showing care and tenderness, yes they can, (c) knowing what needs doing without being told. There are some pretty powerful fantasies embedded in all that, which I guess is the source of the appeal, and could be interesting to play with. Or sometimes words and actions are opposed to each other, e.g. with someone like Owen, who often turns up in fic patching people together and cursing them out simultaneously.

I thought about it afterwards, tried to come up with an example, and julad's story came to mind: http://community.livejournal.com/tw_flashfic/4684.html

But obvs, there's comic and cracky ways one could spin the tropes as well. And I kind of like the idea of fail!h/c. Jack won't shut up, Ianto's coffee makes everyone hurl, there's no magic healing cock in sight, the takeaway ordered to tide over the wounded gives food poisoning, the showers run out of hot water at the shampooing stage, yada yada. The bathtub that's too small. :)

Don't ask me why I'm thinking about this shit.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Ianto's coffee makes everyone hurl

I want to read the fic that uses that as its summary.

[madder-rose.livejournal.com]

Anti h/c. I'm thinking assuaging pain with abuse. If it hurts make it hurt more. Since someone else comforts the Hurt person in the H/C. But if it's anti... like you said it's not opposite.

To continue the hero-analogy. Instead of being comforted by Kitty Pryde it's Batman telling you to buck up and keep fighting. Um. Right. Sort of.

Also: Stuff that doesn't come from pigs should not be named Bacon. I'm looking at you, Turkey Bacon.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

BUT IT TASTES LIKE SWEET SWEET BACON!

[xtricks.livejournal.com]

I think my idea of anit-h/c was in What Lies Within - Ianto going blind suddenly and possibly dying and Jack's like ... fuck, that sucks and I still have to go save the world so here's a cab and I'll maybe see you tonight.

In other words, my anit-h/c is usually 'the world doesn't stop (espeically for starship captains, heros of the universe, etc) because one's lover etc is injured/dying. It's not abandonment due to dislike or anger but the neccesities of the situation are more important than kissing the boo-boos.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

That's an intriguing proposition. I would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

[sqyd.livejournal.com]

Anti H/C:

Someone is in an extremely good mood or physical condition (as a result of alien tech/drugs.) - Not Hurt part.

Said person is brought back to reality. - Not Comfort part.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Hah. POSSIBLY.

[vae]

Anti h/c = Owen's bedside manner.

And a really gross sickness/injury.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Like elephantitis of the nuts.

No wait, like a festering bedsore.

[joanwilder.livejournal.com]

Emily B. would sick up in her parasol.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

I like to think that she'd then put it upright and spin the stem so that sick up flew everywhere.

[hope]

I kinda think of my first aid kink story as anti-h/c... maybe even specifically anti-torchwood!h/c?

Because, ok, post-countrycide went more like this:

Ianto: hurt, but needs to NOT be totally vulnerable and in someone else's hands, asserting control over the situation is the best medicine.
Jack: WHEE, BLOWJOBS!

I was happy with it!

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

dude, that's sneak attack h/c

[mrsalemp.livejournal.com]

Bacon lollipops are as appealing as a tomato and eggnog latte. That is all.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

MAPLE BACON. THERE IS A DIFFERENCE.

[topgeargirl2.livejournal.com]

I get that h/c means hurt/comfort. Anti- H/C probably means the person doesn't show sympathy for the other. which is more realistic.

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

Possibly. Hrm.

[amanuensis1.livejournal.com]

Oh, man, thank you for the lollipop link! I found a brand of Maple Bacon Lollipop that's delicious but I have jaw problems and they're TOO BIG to enjoy, dammit. Now I have another chance!

[amand-r.livejournal.com]

omg I love that they're called MAN-BAIT.