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Okay, so potty training is setting us back, again and again, and mum thinks it's the pull ups and I'm at the point where I agree with her.

Can anyone recommend effective training pants? They must be:

1. fairly waterproof and washable.
2. Uncomfortable. Seriously, I can't make her do anything she doesn't want to do, but I can make it an unhappy thing.

I'm amazingly frustrated right now. Fuckbears.

I also don't want to talk about it, really, so if you know of training pants, that's cool, but anything else potty related I'm not in the mood for. Sorry.

Date: 2010-03-08 05:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paragraphs.livejournal.com
hot icky old standard plastic training pants over cloth or cheapo diapers=misery. Choice of pretty panties over those? Oh yeah.

Never believed in pull-ups, honestly; when I babysat as those who used them, were horrid to train.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
They are expensive and shit, and I don't mind doing laundry, so I won't miss the pull ups.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paragraphs.livejournal.com
Good advice down there and I swear, it is so true--I had one kid who was a breeze and the other who didn't give a damn. But he came around anyway.

Date: 2010-03-08 05:53 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com
Yeah, I second that, cheap crinkly plastic ones. Pull-Ups are evil and really only good for overnight.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
we were doing so well with the pull ups. we had fully dry days. but now, we've regressed and I don't know what else to do.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com
She'll get there. It has to matter to her and no amount of it mattering to you will change that. I just need to keep reminding myself of all the things I learned back in potty training because damned if they aren't just as applicable to teenagers.

You'll probably be much smarter and wiser than me and will only need to learn this shit once.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Oh man, I doubt it. I am incredibly stupid in these things.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:27 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com
Well, there's a reason we used to do this parenting thing as extended families and with loads of other families going through the same thing. Poly families start to look REAL SMART about now. I feel for my poor sprog as I think I would be much better at it now that I've had a "practice run" but alas, he's it for us.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:28 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
I wish I had two husbands to go through this with me.

My brain gotes to the poly happy place.

Date: 2010-03-08 06:01 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bleukittie.livejournal.com
Sorry, can't help. My kids use the litter box, mostly.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Some of mine do too. I have been spoiled by cats.

This is why I don't have dogs, man.

Date: 2010-03-08 06:39 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ask-theharkni.livejournal.com
Honestly, the cheap plastic pants worked wonders for us when nothing else did. But good luck finding them. I spent a good month trying to track them down - amazon seems your best bet and price now, but sometimes you can luck out and find them at Kids R Us and stores like that.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
That's a good idea. I tried online and they were non-existent. gerber had things that are good for kids that are further along.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:07 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tariqa.livejournal.com
I'd recommend old plastic pants as well, if you can find them. Otherwise maybe something like these Imse Vinse training pants (http://www.amazon.com/Imse-Vimse-Training-Pants-Jungle/dp/B0017RSXWM/) as she will still feel wet.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:22 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
That might be too cute. I like them. I wish they made grown up pants--without the padding and the creepy diaper fetish vibes I have just given myself.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:09 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veridari.livejournal.com
I used the Gerber training pants on my kids at the time, although another brand highly recommended to me by other Moms where the Kushies. I bought the Gerbers through (I hesitate to name the store in fear you might throw virtual tomatoes at me) Walmart but they are also available through Amazon - I just checked.

We Moms send you virtual sympathy, because we all had the kid who was resistant. When my daughter was training, we lived in a three level house of which there was NO bathroom on the main level. Eventuallym I stuck the potty chair right in the middle of the living room because I got tired of cleaning the carpet on the stairs because she didn't make it in time. I SO get your frustration. ((HUGS))

Date: 2010-03-08 07:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
We were making such progress, but alas. I'm mre frustrated because we were doing so well.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] veridari.livejournal.com
We had setbacks as well. It seems to go with the territory for reasons that just defy explanations. My favorite Mom advice book at the time said on the subject to just keep telling yourself "they won't be wearing them in college." I remember just taking daughter to the grocery store while she was wearing big girl underwear and just stressing big time and PRAYING the accident wouldn't happen in the shopping cart. Seems like just yesterday... :p

Date: 2010-03-08 07:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm pretty laid back about this stuff, so I don't mind. But I just feel so much pressure to get it done right now.

Date: 2010-03-08 08:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] snufflesdbear.livejournal.com
Pretty sure I saw the ugly, crinkly plastic kind at walmart last time I was shopping for some Amish. You might be able to find some at goodwill, but, *shudders* no. Suppose you could look for some that weren't used there.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:15 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mtgat
Adding voice for the Gerbers: soft and absorbant inside, crinkly and plastic outside. We called them the Underpants of Shame, which helped for training Girl. Boy had no shame, so.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
So like, am I getting this right? I see that they sell cloth underpants, and then you buy separate plastic covers? Am I reading that right? Or am I supposed to be looking for an all in one thing?

Date: 2010-03-08 07:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mtgat
Ours were all-in-one. Note: the plasticky part will eventually come to pieces, but two packs of the things made it through both kids before we had to chuck them.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Okay, I'll take a look.

am I lazy for wanting to buy like...twenty four of them?

Date: 2010-03-08 07:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mtgat
No. Lazy is giving up and hoping she'll figure out on her own by middle school.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
HAAAHAHAH PRE-SCHOOL WON'T TAKE HER IF SHE'S NOT POTTY TRAINED.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mtgat
Girl's preschool had a "You can send 'em in Pull-Ups but we're not changing it" rule. Boy was Special Ed preschool, and the diaper changes were part of the teacher's job. Parent of one of Girl's classmates was annoyed by a parent of one of Boy's classmates for giving nice presents to the teachers, and I'm like, "Those teachers deal with poop every day. We're getting them a damn present."

Date: 2010-03-08 07:38 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Yeah man. I used to read the Tard Blog, which, despite not being PC, was a blog by a Special Ed teacher, and she deserved a freaking medal.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] mtgat
They all do, omg.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dremiel.livejournal.com
Yup.

And if all her pretty/fun undies get dirty she has to wear boring white ones or something.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:52 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shannon730.livejournal.com
Have you tried bribery? It worked with boys I babysit.

Date: 2010-03-08 07:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Yeah, I'm not sure she;ll get that, and I don't want this to be the lesson. She's awfully contrary anyway.

Date: 2010-03-09 02:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jacquez.livejournal.com
this was my mother's weapon against us as potty-training children. GIANT poofy crinkly rubber pants over cloth diapers, and an expression of unconcern when we were wet or poopy.

"Oh, you're wet, hm? You might want to think about using the potty to avoid that. I'll change you in a bit." [wandered off to read a book or something while miserable wet child looked sadly at giant pants]

Date: 2010-03-09 02:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
I am going for that thing. Yeah.

Date: 2010-03-09 04:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] huesiemama.livejournal.com
Sorry no help here.
1. I have boys, so different equipment.

2. We used a progressive combination of pull-ups, thick cloth underpants and cool big boy pants with awesome characters.

I feel ya on the regression though. 6 year-old was withholding for some reason, and it presented as bum pain.

But slightly easier to reason with 6 year old, grasping that poo in the loo is better for the body and mom's sanity than um, poo in the pants.

Date: 2010-03-09 10:49 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lastrega.livejournal.com
I can't help with the pants, but you have my sympathies. One of mine was hard to train and I thought he'd never get dry. It's hard work and you deserve cookies and porn.

Date: 2010-03-09 04:04 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
Where is the line of the cookies and porn? Imma get me some of that.

Date: 2010-03-09 04:41 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dvanulya.livejournal.com
I just bought the old-fashioned, thickly-padded cotten training pants, and used rubber pants over them. (I also used cloth diapers and used the same rubber pants for that.) I bought the training pants and rubber pants at the Amish market. (I used to get MAD when I saw Amish moms buying Pampers at Sam's, let me tell you.) They do leak, though.

I know you don't want to talk about it, but just think about this: it'll get warm soon, and you can let kidlet run around with nothing on the bottom. A lot of kids will pee down their legs a couple of times and then GET IT. Plus you can see what's happening when it's happening and get them to the place they're supposed to be.

I don't miss that part of toddlerhood. Good luck.

Date: 2010-03-09 04:44 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dvanulya.livejournal.com
And now I'm reading others' comments and see kind of the same thing - and someone else is talking about the Amish? Whoa.

Date: 2010-03-09 04:56 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] amand-r.livejournal.com
There are lots of Amish in PA.

I like they they live in Blue Balls, Intercourse, and Bird-In-Hand. Whoever named PA towns was a funny guy.

Date: 2010-03-09 06:18 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dvanulya.livejournal.com
Ah yes, considerably more than there are in DE. I just thought it was aMUSing.

Date: 2010-03-12 01:52 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eperidani.livejournal.com
i did both those things, and it worked like a charm.

Date: 2010-03-09 07:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] teaboyfan.livejournal.com
This was 30-something years ago, so my memory is a bit vague, but I do remember putting her in thick cotton panties that were absorbent but not waterproof, when she was about 2 1/2. The first time she peed in them, she slipped in the puddle, sat down hard, and I could almost see the lightbulb go on over her head. After she made that connection, it seems that she was pretty well trained, with only rare accidents, in just a few days.

Date: 2010-03-10 02:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] melissa2u.livejournal.com
We used normal underpants with LMV, nothing special. She hated to be wet, and how her clothes got wet too. She potty-trained very fast. Her older brother took longer but since he was first, we tried the pull ups kind of route with him before giving up and putting him in big boy underwear.

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